This segment is a legal-news discussion about the DOJ opening a criminal investigation into E. Jean Carroll, focusing on whether she lied under oath about who funded her civil suits against Donald Trump. The guests largely argue the probe is weak, politically motivated, and unlikely to become a viable perjury case, while also noting practical issues like venue, recusal, and the Trump DOJ’s broader pattern of targeting perceived enemies.
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The segment centers on a newly reported DOJ criminal investigation into E. Jean Carroll, the writer who won two major civil judgments against Donald Trump. The anchor frames the probe as focusing on whether Carroll lied under oath about the source of funding for her lawsuits. The discussion quickly turns from the factual setup to the larger political meaning: the reporters and legal analyst describe it as another example of what they see as Trump’s Justice Department pursuing marginal cases against political or personal enemies. Ken Dilanian says there is still very little public information, but the investigation is open and run out of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of Illinois. He says the apparent inquiry concerns whether Carroll was truthful in a 2022 deposition about private legal funding. …
Immediate read: the reported Carroll probe looks procedurally fragile and could stall if prosecutors cannot clear materiality and venue hurdles. For now the main risk is reputational and political noise, not a clearly strong charging case.
Over the next few months, the base case in this segment is that the matter either fades, gets delayed, or runs into early legal obstacles unless DOJ can produce a stronger factual theory. A real shift would require a formal charge supported by clean venue and a credible perjury record.
Structurally, the transcript argues this is evidence of a broader regime problem: DOJ being used as a political instrument rather than a neutral enforcement body. If that perception persists, it can erode confidence in federal institutions well beyond the Carroll matter.
The DOJ has opened a criminal investigation into whether E. Jean Carroll lied under oath about private funding for her lawsuits.
The anchor and Ken describe an open criminal investigation centered on that alleged false statement.
A perjury case would require a knowingly false, material statement, and the panel argues Carroll’s deposition answer does not meet that standard.
Christy lays out perjury elements and says the statement was not material.
The prior judge already addressed the funding issue, which undermines the argument that the statement was material enough for criminal prosecution.
Greenberg says the judge was informed and allowed further questioning, then blocked it at trial.
What do we know about this investigation? How far along is it? What are the allegations? Do we know of any evidence, et cetera?
Ken says very little is known beyond that it is an open criminal investigation in the Northern District of Illinois centered on whether Carroll lied under oath about private funding.
Does a normal independent DOJ not tasked with taking on Trump's perceived enemies take up this case?
Christy says no, calling it not a legitimate perjury case because the statement was not material and the judge had already handled the issue in the civil proceeding.
Is it surprising Blanche may have recused himself?
Ken says Blanche may have recused because he worked on the case, but argues the broader DOJ remains aligned with Trump regardless.
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