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Wedbush's Ives: Still less than 10-15% through AI revolution

Channel: CNBC International Live Published: 2026-05-29 09:20
CNBC International Live

Dan Ives argues the AI cycle is still very early, with enterprise spending, infrastructure buildout, and monetization still in the first 10-15% of a multi-year revolution. He says the market is starting to validate this through names like Snowflake, Dell, Datadog, Palantir, and cybersecurity leaders, while warning that winners and losers will emerge as the spending wave broadens from frontier models into applications, data, servers, and physical AI.

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Detailed summary

Dan Ives’s core thesis is that investors are still extremely early in the AI capex and monetization cycle. He repeatedly says the market is only “less than 10 15% through this,” and frames the current phase as the beginning of a long investment supercycle rather than a late-stage bubble. His view is that companies will keep spending heavily for years, costs will fall over time, and the market is still underestimating how much free cash flow and monetization can expand as AI adoption broadens. He supports that view by pointing to forward indicators and company-level evidence: Dell on the server/hardware side, Snowflake and Datadog on the data layer, Palantir and “ino data” as use-case beneficiaries, and the broader pattern of AI monetization spreading beyond frontier model providers. …

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Main takeaways

  1. AI adoption is still in the early innings, according to Ives, with multi-year spending still ahead.
  2. The market is broadening beyond frontier models into data, infrastructure, software, and cybersecurity.
  3. Snowflake and Dell are presented as especially important confirmation points for the trade.
  4. Ives thinks this cycle looks more like the 1996-97 internet phase than the 1999-2000 bubble peak.
  5. He expects free cash flow to improve as capex moderates and monetization ramps over the next 12-18 months.
  6. He argues U.S. tech has a structural advantage over China and should keep attracting global capital.

Market read by horizon

Short term

Near term, the setup is still constructive for AI infrastructure and adjacent software as long as enterprise spending headlines stay firm; the main tactical risk is an ROI scare or valuation reset. Snowflake, Dell, and cybersecurity strength are the clearest tell for whether the trade is still being bought.

  • Near term, watch whether recent strength in Snowflake, Dell, and cybersecurity names extends or fades as the market digests AI spending data.
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  • The immediate bullish catalyst is continued enterprise demand and more evidence that AI budgets are still rising rather than rolling over.
  • A tactical risk is that some companies may begin questioning ROI or delay purchases if AI costs stay high.
Mid term

Over the next few months, the base case is continued AI capex with a later-stage shift toward monetization and free-cash-flow visibility. The trade broadens if data, server, and security names keep confirming; it weakens if corporate buyers start cutting back or if the spending cycle loses momentum.

  • Over the next several weeks to months, Ives expects capex to remain strong while monetization and free cash flow begin to improve later in the cycle.
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  • The base case is a widening AI trade: frontier models remain important, but the next legs come from applications, data infrastructure, servers, and cybersecurity.
  • Confirmation would come from continued strength in enterprise checks, more evidence in company results, and broader participation beyond the original AI leaders.
Long term

The structural thesis is that AI remains a durable capital cycle, not a completed bubble, and that the ecosystem will be much wider than frontier model companies alone. If Ives is right, the lasting winners are likely to be spread across models, infrastructure, software, security, and physical AI, with U.S. tech continuing to attract global capital.

  • Structurally, Ives sees AI as a true fourth industrial revolution rather than a speculative one-off bubble.
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  • He believes the lasting winners will include a broad ecosystem: models, infrastructure, data platforms, software, cybersecurity, and physical AI/robotics.
  • The long-run implication is that AI spending becomes a durable capital cycle that reshapes tech leadership and global capital allocation toward U.S. technology.
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Key claims (8)

BULLISH AI adoption cycle AI revolution

The AI revolution is still in its early stages, with less than 10-15% completed.

Direct statement that the cycle remains early.

BULLISH AI capex enterprise AI spending

Companies will continue spending for the next few years because they cannot afford to stand aside from AI.

He argues spending is mandatory and persistent.

BULLISH private AI valuations Anthropic

Anthropic’s huge pre-IPO valuation shows valuation appetite remains strong.

He uses the valuation as a signal of strong investor demand.

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Assets discussed (10)

Dell — DELL
BULLISH stock

Used as evidence that server-side AI spending is spreading and supporting the infrastructure trade.

Snowflake — SNOW
BULLISH stock

Presented as the most important confirmation that AI monetization is spreading into the data layer.

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Speakers

GUEST Dan Ives HOST Karen

Interview (8 Q&A)

AI investment layers

Why should investors think not just about the AI frontier layer but move further down into application areas?

Dan says Anthropic and OpenAI are the tip of the spear but investors need to play the second, third, and fourth derivatives. He points to the data layer (Palantir, Datadog, Snowflake) and server-side (Dell) as evidence that AI monetization is spreading, which he calls bullish.

free cash flow valuation

How are you thinking about free cash flows given that many semiconductor stocks look overvalued on traditional metrics?

Dan says investors need to look out 12-18 months. Once CapEx starts to moderate and monetization ramps, free cash flow will boom not just from Mag 7 but from broader tech. He frames this as the start of $4 trillion in AI spending and calls it a 1996/1997 moment rather than a 1999/2000 bubble.

weekly tech moves

Which was the most interesting, telling, and dramatic move this week in tech — Micron, Dell, or the Anthropic funding round?

Dan says Snowflake was the most important because the SaaS apocalypse narrative is being disproven. The data layer names like Snowflake, Datadog, and Palantir are showing monetization spreading to software use cases, which validates the thesis.

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Where this transcript pushes against consensus

  • The valuation framework is asserted more than demonstrated; he says 1996-97 not 1999-2000, but gives limited hard evidence beyond analogies and spending momentum.
  • He assumes continued enterprise spend will persist, but the transcript includes external reports of ROI skepticism and cost pressure that he largely discounts.
  • The claim that U.S. tech is ahead of China for the first time in 30 years is strong but not substantiated in the transcript.
  • Some of the company examples are used as directional evidence without quantifying how much of their moves are actually AI-driven versus broader fundamentals.

Topics

AI revolutionenterprise AI spendingSnowflakeDellAnthropicOpenAIcybersecurityfree cash flowU.S. vs China techphysical AI

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