Jeremy Schwartz argued that the current market is still being driven more by AI earnings power than by headline geopolitical risk, and he does not view the SpaceX IPO as a clear top signal. He emphasized that valuation depends on growth and profitability, that many large-cap tech names still screen reasonably on his framework, and that the main debate is whether massive AI/data-center capex will translate into earnings over time. He also framed physical AI, drones, humanoids, and healthcare innovation as longer-run beneficiaries of the same compute trend.
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This was an interview centered on whether the SpaceX IPO is a froth signal, how to think about the AI trade, and what the latest market and macro setup means for portfolios. Jeremy Schwartz’s core view was that the market is still being powered by the AI earnings story, not simply speculation, and that SpaceX is not, by itself, a top signal. He said the market is balancing geopolitical worries in the Middle East and oil with a much more dominant tech/AI narrative, and that the AI trend remains in early phases even if some of the productivity benefits are not yet showing up in standard economic statistics. A major part of the discussion was valuation. Schwartz argued that the S&P 500 was around 22x earnings and tech around 27x, but that several mega-cap names were not obviously expensive when growth is considered. …
Near term, the trade stays fragile but constructive as long as chips keep rebounding and the Fed/inflation tape does not surprise hawkishly. The main tactical risk is that IPO enthusiasm or oil-driven macro stress turns sentiment into a quick fade.
Over the next few weeks to months, the base case is still AI-led leadership, but with more stock-specific differentiation and more scrutiny on whether capex converts into margin and earnings. A hawkish inflation print or evidence of overspending without payoff would challenge the setup.
Structurally, the market may be entering a regime where AI, robotics, and real-world automation matter more than software-only narratives, and where value/growth distinctions blur inside mega-cap tech. The lasting question is not whether AI matters, but which businesses can monetize the buildout profitably.
The current market is being driven more by tech and AI than by geopolitical and oil risks, even after Middle East headlines.
He explicitly contrasted geopolitics/oil versus the market’s continued strength led by tech and AI.
AI is not yet showing up clearly in standard productivity statistics, but it is showing up in profits and may still be early in its cycle.
He said productivity data has been weak while profits are benefiting, supporting a long-duration AI thesis.
Nvidia is effectively a value stock in his framework because its growth is strong enough to justify a market-multiple valuation.
He directly said he called Nvidia a value stock and explained the growth/multiple logic.
Does it seem like Friday's selloff was a oneoff, and how are you thinking about the AI trade here?
Jeremy frames it as a battle between geopolitics (Iran missiles, oil risks) and the tech/AI story which keeps powering on and overshadows energy risk. He notes AI is not yet showing up in productivity statistics but is showing up in profits, and that the bottlenecks in chip supply (Nvidia can't make enough) are real and will drive the story for years.
Can the AI buildout recoup the revenue outlay? Are valuations justified?
Jeremy says tech trades around 27x earnings vs 18x for the other half of the market. He argues some Mag 7 names like Nvidia and Meta are actually value stocks now. Nvidia is at market multiples with superior growth rates, so he put it as a top holding in their active value fund (WTV). Meta is also valued reasonably.
Is the rush of companies like SpaceX and AI firms to go public a sign of speculative frenzy, or are they just in need of capital?
The speaker distinguishes between great companies and great investments, noting that while these are exciting transformational companies, timing IPOs is very hard. They see the need for capital as a natural phase after private markets, and aren't worried it's a sign of the top.
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