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How Will The SpaceX IPO Impact Your Portfolio? with Jeremy Schwartz | Talking Markets

Channel: Maggie Lake Talking Markets Published: 2026-06-09 03:41
Maggie Lake Talking Markets

Jeremy Schwartz argued that the current market is still being driven more by AI earnings power than by headline geopolitical risk, and he does not view the SpaceX IPO as a clear top signal. He emphasized that valuation depends on growth and profitability, that many large-cap tech names still screen reasonably on his framework, and that the main debate is whether massive AI/data-center capex will translate into earnings over time. He also framed physical AI, drones, humanoids, and healthcare innovation as longer-run beneficiaries of the same compute trend.

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Detailed summary

This was an interview centered on whether the SpaceX IPO is a froth signal, how to think about the AI trade, and what the latest market and macro setup means for portfolios. Jeremy Schwartz’s core view was that the market is still being powered by the AI earnings story, not simply speculation, and that SpaceX is not, by itself, a top signal. He said the market is balancing geopolitical worries in the Middle East and oil with a much more dominant tech/AI narrative, and that the AI trend remains in early phases even if some of the productivity benefits are not yet showing up in standard economic statistics. A major part of the discussion was valuation. Schwartz argued that the S&P 500 was around 22x earnings and tech around 27x, but that several mega-cap names were not obviously expensive when growth is considered. …

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Main takeaways

  1. AI remains the dominant market engine, with earnings growth still concentrated in tech and compute demand still constrained.
  2. Schwartz does not view the SpaceX IPO as a definitive top signal; he sees it as a large, exciting company coming to market with real capital needs.
  3. He thinks valuation should be judged against growth and profitability, which is why he is comfortable calling Nvidia a value stock in his framework.
  4. Tesla is the most problematic of the Mag 7 in his view because growth has slowed and profitability screens are weakening.
  5. The AI buildout is broader than software; physical AI, drones, humanoids, and industrial applications are part of the same capex cycle.
  6. The Fed may face a harder inflation backdrop if money-supply growth stays elevated, reducing the odds of easy rate cuts.
  7. Japan and select international markets remain attractive on valuation and can still participate in the AI ecosystem.
  8. Healthcare is one of his preferred value/innovation areas because AI may materially shorten drug discovery cycles.

Market read by horizon

Short term

Near term, the trade stays fragile but constructive as long as chips keep rebounding and the Fed/inflation tape does not surprise hawkishly. The main tactical risk is that IPO enthusiasm or oil-driven macro stress turns sentiment into a quick fade.

  • Near-term market action is still being driven by whether AI stocks hold the bid after volatility, with chip rebounds offsetting Friday weakness.
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  • Watch the IPO pipeline, especially SpaceX, for whether investor appetite stays strong or turns into a crowded first-day trade.
  • The Fed meeting and this week’s inflation data are immediate catalysts for rate expectations and could pressure risk assets if the message turns less dovish.
Mid term

Over the next few weeks to months, the base case is still AI-led leadership, but with more stock-specific differentiation and more scrutiny on whether capex converts into margin and earnings. A hawkish inflation print or evidence of overspending without payoff would challenge the setup.

  • Over the next several weeks to months, the base case is continued AI-led market leadership if capex keeps converting into earnings.
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  • Confirmation would come from sustained earnings growth in chipmakers, hyperscalers, and infrastructure suppliers, not just stronger narratives.
  • If money-supply data remains elevated and inflation stays sticky, the Fed may be forced to keep policy tighter for longer than equity bulls want.
Long term

Structurally, the market may be entering a regime where AI, robotics, and real-world automation matter more than software-only narratives, and where value/growth distinctions blur inside mega-cap tech. The lasting question is not whether AI matters, but which businesses can monetize the buildout profitably.

  • Schwartz’s structural thesis is that AI is still in an early phase and will eventually show up more clearly in profits, productivity, and real-economy applications.
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  • He sees “physical AI” as a lasting regime shift: drones, humanoids, industrial automation, and robotics becoming major compute consumers.
  • Founder-led innovation remains a durable long-term advantage in his view, which is why he is reluctant to bet against Elon Musk structurally.
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Key claims (9)

BULLISH AI leadership vs geopolitics S&P 500

The current market is being driven more by tech and AI than by geopolitical and oil risks, even after Middle East headlines.

He explicitly contrasted geopolitics/oil versus the market’s continued strength led by tech and AI.

BULLISH AI productivity and profits AI

AI is not yet showing up clearly in standard productivity statistics, but it is showing up in profits and may still be early in its cycle.

He said productivity data has been weak while profits are benefiting, supporting a long-duration AI thesis.

BULLISH valuation vs growth Nvidia

Nvidia is effectively a value stock in his framework because its growth is strong enough to justify a market-multiple valuation.

He directly said he called Nvidia a value stock and explained the growth/multiple logic.

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Assets discussed (16)

SpaceX
MIXED other

Seen as a transformational company and a possible IPO excitement signal, but not necessarily a market top because float, profitability, and timing matter.

Nvidia — NVDA
BULLISH stock

Schwartz repeatedly framed Nvidia as reasonably priced relative to growth and even called it a value stock in his framework.

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Interview (12 Q&A)

AI trade outlook

Does it seem like Friday's selloff was a oneoff, and how are you thinking about the AI trade here?

Jeremy frames it as a battle between geopolitics (Iran missiles, oil risks) and the tech/AI story which keeps powering on and overshadows energy risk. He notes AI is not yet showing up in productivity statistics but is showing up in profits, and that the bottlenecks in chip supply (Nvidia can't make enough) are real and will drive the story for years.

AI valuations

Can the AI buildout recoup the revenue outlay? Are valuations justified?

Jeremy says tech trades around 27x earnings vs 18x for the other half of the market. He argues some Mag 7 names like Nvidia and Meta are actually value stocks now. Nvidia is at market multiples with superior growth rates, so he put it as a top holding in their active value fund (WTV). Meta is also valued reasonably.

IPO frenzy vs capital needs

Is the rush of companies like SpaceX and AI firms to go public a sign of speculative frenzy, or are they just in need of capital?

The speaker distinguishes between great companies and great investments, noting that while these are exciting transformational companies, timing IPOs is very hard. They see the need for capital as a natural phase after private markets, and aren't worried it's a sign of the top.

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Where this transcript pushes against consensus

  • The claim that Nvidia is a 'value stock' is analytically defensible in his framework but unconventional and depends heavily on using growth-adjusted screens rather than traditional valuation.
  • His confidence that AI will boost productivity and not cause a major job-loss shock is plausible but not yet strongly supported by the official productivity data he himself says remains weak.
  • The idea that SpaceX is not a top signal rests more on float, index inclusion rules, and capital needs than on evidence that late-stage enthusiasm is benign.
  • His inflation concern relies partly on money-supply growth as a guide, which is a debated indicator and not always a reliable short-run predictor.
  • The claim that AI spending will ultimately translate into earnings is central to his thesis, but the timing and margin capture remain unproven.
  • The optimism on Japan and Europe depends on valuation and selective AI exposure, but the macro and geopolitical backdrops could still overwhelm stock-specific appeal.

Topics

SpaceX IPOAI tradeMag 7 valuationNvidia and computePhysical AIFed and inflationMoney supplyJapan and international equitiesHealthcare innovationConsumer staples

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