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'WATCH OUT': Brenberg SENDS WARNING SHOT over blue state exodus

Channel: Fox Business Published: 2026-06-13 21:00
Fox Business

Fox Business panel discussion on blue-state tax policy and the claimed exodus of wealthy residents. The speakers argue that higher taxes in states like Washington, California, New York, and cities like Seattle, San Francisco, and New York City are pushing high earners and property owners to consider leaving, while Democrats and local officials downplay the scale of the migration.

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Detailed summary

This short Fox Business segment centers on the political and market-like consequences of blue-state taxation: Washington’s new 9.9% millionaire tax, New York City’s proposed apartment-related tax, and a series of defeated local tax measures in California. The panel’s core thesis is that aggressive taxation and regulatory hostility are encouraging wealthy residents and business leaders to relocate, and that this has both fiscal and political consequences for the states and cities that impose those taxes. The discussion begins with Taylor framing Washington State’s 9.9% tax on millionaires, noting that it does not begin until 2028 but that “the state is paying the price” already because a survey found half of Washington business leaders are considering moving their personal residence out of state. …

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Main takeaways

  1. The panel’s central claim is that higher taxes in blue states are already changing behavior, especially among wealthy residents and business leaders.
  2. Washington’s millionaire tax is treated as an early warning sign, even though it does not take effect until 2028.
  3. Seattle’s mayor disputes the scale of the exodus, but the panel argues the broader pattern is already visible.
  4. The speakers repeatedly frame migration as both a fiscal risk and a political risk for states that raise taxes aggressively.
  5. California ballot results are used as evidence that voters are starting to push back against local tax hikes.
  6. New York City is presented as another live example of implementation uncertainty and taxpayer resistance.

Market read by horizon

Short term

Tactically, the near-term setup is headline-driven: any new survey, migration anecdote, or ballot result can extend the anti-tax, exodus narrative. The immediate risk is that officials downplay the issue while voters and residents react to implementation details, especially in New York City and Washington.

  • Immediate focus is on sentiment around Washington’s millionaire tax before it even goes into effect in 2028.
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  • Watch whether more business-leader surveys or headline relocations reinforce the exodus narrative.
  • The next catalyst is California’s statewide billionaire-tax vote in November, which the panel treats as a real test.
Mid term

Over the next several weeks to months, the base case is continued resistance to new high-end taxes, with California’s November vote and NYC implementation details serving as validation points. If the measures pass but revenue holds and departures stay limited, the bearish exodus thesis weakens; if high earners keep leaving or complaining, it gains credibility.

  • Over the next few months, the key question is whether migration anecdotes turn into measurable revenue losses or just political noise.
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  • A base-case reading from the panel is that tax-heavy jurisdictions will keep facing referenda, lobbying, and resident pushback as more proposals land.
  • If California’s statewide tax vote fails or is narrowed, it would strengthen the panel’s argument that voters are tiring of repeated hikes.
Long term

Structurally, the segment argues that high-tax states face an enduring competitiveness problem because capital and residents can relocate across state lines. The long-run implication is a persistent fiscal and political constraint on blue-state tax design, especially if migration continues to erode the tax base.

  • Structurally, the segment argues that states compete on tax policy, and residents can vote with their feet.
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  • The lasting implication is that high-tax jurisdictions may face a chronic tradeoff between revenue extraction and retaining capital, talent, and high earners.
  • The panel suggests federalism creates a feedback loop: poorly managed states become cautionary examples for others.
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Key claims (4)

BEARISH Interstate migration / tax competition

High-tax blue states lost $2 trillion in revenues to red states from 2012-2023.

Cites a study by the Committee to Unleash Prosperity covering 2012-2023.

BEARISH Local tax policy / wealth exodus

New York City's tax on apartments over $5 million will cause owners to sell because they don't want to be part of it.

Speaker reports anecdotal evidence from personal acquaintances about intent to sell, and criticizes the city's lack of implementation parameters.

NEUTRAL Local tax policy / voter backlash

The state of California's requirement for voter approval of local tax increases caused San Diego's Measure A (second homes tax) to be defeated.

Speaker links the constitutional requirement to the defeat of the specific ballot measure, citing a San Diego Union-Tribune story about voter distrust.

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Assets discussed (5)

Washington State millionaires tax
BEARISH other

Presented as a policy that is already prompting relocation concern and state backlash.

New York City apartment tax
BEARISH other

Described as causing owners to want to sell and creating implementation uncertainty.

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Speakers

HOST Taylor GUEST Jackie DeAngelis GUEST Dagen McDowell GUEST Brian Brenberg GUEST Liz Peek

Interview (7 Q&A)

wealth exodus

Do you still think the narrative that rich people are leaving Washington is overstated?

The response says claims of a large exodus caused by Washington's millionaire tax are overblown, though it frames the issue as part of a broader trend of high-tax blue states losing residents and revenue.

tax migration

What do you think about the millionaire tax in Washington and broader tax-driven migration from blue states?

She argues that blue states and blue cities keep raising taxes and are therefore losing residents. She cites a study from the Committee to Unleash Prosperity claiming high-tax blue states lost $2 trillion in revenues to red states from 2012 to 2023.

billionaire exits

What do you make of people like Bezos, the Zillow co-founder, and Howard Schultz leaving?

He says people can leave and that is fine, but they were community leaders who helped set the stage for the politics they now object to. He warns that states like Texas or Idaho should watch out because newcomers may carry the same political habits with them.

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Where this transcript pushes against consensus

  • The mayor of Seattle explicitly says claims of a large exodus are overblown, which directly conflicts with the panel’s alarmed framing.
  • The panel relies heavily on anecdotes, surveys, and ballot outcomes rather than hard migration data proving a broad exodus.
  • Liz Peek’s $2 trillion revenue-loss figure is cited without methodology or context in the segment.
  • Brian’s warning that migrants will bring the politics of blue states with them is plausible but not demonstrated in the transcript.
  • Several examples conflate specific local tax disputes with a general proof that all blue-state tax policy is failing.

Topics

blue-state exodusWashington millionaire taxNew York City apartment taxCalifornia local tax votesSeattle politicsstate taxationfederalismwealth migration

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