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TWO COUNTRIES WILL RULE THE MIDDLE EAST - Col. Macgregor On Iran War

Channel: Mario Nawfal Published: 2026-06-19 07:00
Mario Nawfal

Col. Douglas Macgregor argues the Iran war marks a historic inflection point: the era of U.S./Western military dominance is ending. Iran and Turkey will emerge as the dominant Middle East powers. He distinguishes Iran (rational, willing to coexist) from Turkey (martial, fight-to-the-finish culture). NATO is "dead on arrival." The U.S. should adopt limits like Rome after Teutoburg — its real empire is the continental United States. Trump's recent criticism of Israel signals he may finally understand this.

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Col. Douglas Macgregor opens with a sweeping geopolitical thesis: two powers will dominate the Middle East for decades — Iran and Turkey. They are fundamentally different. Iran represents an ancient Persian civilization that is rational, willing to coexist, and open to diplomacy and business. Macgregor draws on his years visiting Israel to argue the Israelis have been "barking up the wrong tree" by fixating on Iran as an existential threat. Turkey, by contrast, is a "resolutely martial people" — natural soldiers who, if provoked, fight to the finish. Macgregor speaks from direct experience working with Turkish forces and rates their military in the top five globally, while stressing that raw human material matters more than technology. He references a Turkish funeral song titled "Every Turk is a Soldier" to underscore the cultural depth of their martial identity. …

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Main takeaways

  1. Iran and Turkey are the two powers that will dominate the Middle East for decades post-war — but they are fundamentally different in character and must be understood separately.
  2. Iran is rational, diplomatic, and willing to coexist; Israel's fixation on Iran as an existential threat is a strategic error — the real long-term threat is Turkey.
  3. Turkey is a martial culture of natural soldiers whose military ranks in the global top five; provoking them means a fight to the finish, and historically they dominated the region for centuries.
  4. The Iran war proves the era of Western military dominance is over — ISR-Strike technology has proliferated and any nation can now deny access to a great power.
  5. NATO is dead, the EU will eventually dissolve, and the rising powers are Iran, Turkey, India, China, and Russia — a return to the pre-1492 civilizational order.
  6. The U.S. must set limits like Rome did after Teutoburg and against Persia; America's real empire is the continental United States and it needs nothing else.
  7. Trump's recent criticism of Israel's disproportionate retaliation suggests he is waking up to strategic reality, possibly driven by necessity to exit the Iran war before the economy suffers.

Market read by horizon

Short term

Immediate de-escalation bias: Macgregor frames Trump's criticism of Israel as a signal the US is seeking an exit from the Iran conflict, with petroleum reserve depletion and economic damage as catalysts for a near-term policy pivot. The Gulf closure is already inflicting costs on India.

  • Immediate US policy pivot possible: Trump's public criticism of Israeli retaliation suggests the White House is seeking an off-ramp from the Iran conflict, potentially accelerating ceasefire or de-escalation talks.
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  • Persian Gulf closure is already causing serious problems for India (explicitly noted), and petroleum reserve depletion risk may force faster US disengagement.
  • Turkey's announcement of a fifth-generation fighter jet and new drone systems this year signals an accelerating military modernization that changes the regional power calculus in real time.
Mid term

Power-vacuum bias: as the US retreats from the Middle East (whether by choice or necessity), Iran and Turkey fill the space — Iran through diplomacy and economic integration, Turkey through military credibility. NATO fragmentation accelerates as Turkey pursues an independent regional course.

  • As the Iran war winds down, expect Iran and Turkey to fill the power vacuum left by a retreating US presence — Iran through diplomacy and economic ties, Turkey through military credibility and historical sphere-of-influence claims.
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  • NATO's irrelevance will become increasingly visible if Turkey (a NATO member) charts an independent course in the post-war Middle East; expect formal or de facto fragmentation of the alliance.
  • The ISR-Strike model demonstrated by Iran will proliferate rapidly — any mid-sized power can now build an impregnable defensive complex, permanently reducing the coercive power of US force projection.
Long term

Civilizational reordering bias: the multi-century Western-dominated order that began in 1492 is reversing. Technology proliferation means no great power can impose its will unilaterally. The US must accept its continental limits; the rising powers are the ancient civilizations — Iran, Turkey, India, China, Russia.

  • The post-war Middle East order will be bipolar between Iran and Turkey, ending the US-Israeli regional hegemony that defined the post-1979 and post-Cold War eras.
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  • The broader civilizational reordering (rise of Iran, Turkey, India, China, Russia relative to a declining West) represents a structural return to pre-Columbian power distribution — a multi-century shift, not a cyclical one.
  • If the US internalizes the 'continental empire' lesson Macgregor describes, we enter a generation of strategic retrenchment: reduced overseas commitments, focus on homeland defense, and acceptance of limits — analogous to post-Teutoburg Rome.

Key claims (3)

BULLISH Middle East power realignment

Iran and Turkey are the two powers that will emerge from this war and dominate the Middle East for decades to come.

The speaker asserts that both Iran and Turkey will rise as dominant regional powers post-war, based on their historical trajectories and current military/civilizational strength.

BULLISH Israel-Turkey-Iran relations

Iran is rational and can coexist with Israel; Israel's existential threat is Turkey, not Iran.

Speaker argues based on his experience visiting Israel and knowledge of Persian civilization that Iran is not an existential enemy, whereas Turkey is innately martial and a fight-to-the-finish adversary.

BEARISH Great power decline / technology proliferation

The era of the US being able to sail in or fly in and bully people into submission is gone.

Speaker argues that ISR-Strike technology (space-based surveillance linked to standoff weapons like ballistic missiles, drones, cruise missiles) has proliferated, making any country capable of defending against superpower intervention.

Interview (3 Q&A)

Iran war analogy

Could the Iran war be the Suez Canal crisis for the US, similar to what the UK and France experienced in the 1950s?

The speaker disagrees with the analogy, arguing Britain was a great power because of its empire — the British Isles themselves have little natural wealth. He notes the United States, by contrast, has its own empire from Atlantic to Pacific and doesn't need anything else, a point he says Trump always understood.

Turkey military

How effective or how powerful is Turkey's military at the moment, given their recent announcements of a fifth-generation fighter jet and new drones?

The speaker rates Turkey's military in the top five in the world, emphasizing that you can't just look at technology and firepower — you must consider the human material. The Turk is a very tough soldier, drawing on centuries of martial history. The speaker notes a Turkish song that says 'Every Turk is a soldier,' sung at funerals for Turkish soldiers.

Trump Israel shift

Is it possible that Trump woke up to the atrocities in the region a while ago but only now felt necessity or the guts to speak out, whether out of necessity due to the Iran war draining petroleum reserves and harming the economy, or some other political reason?

Where this transcript pushes against consensus

  • Macgregor's claim that Iran is 'rational' and willing to coexist is asserted without addressing Iran's long-standing ideological commitment to Israel's destruction, funding of proxy militias, or the regime's theocratic character — the analysis flattens a complex actor into one dimension.
  • The prediction that NATO is 'dead on arrival' and the EU will dissolve ignores the demonstrated resilience of both institutions through multiple crises; Macgregor offers no mechanism for dissolution beyond assertion.
  • The historical analogy to 9 AD Teutoburg and Roman-Persian limits is stretched — Rome continued expanding and fighting for centuries after both events; the analogy selectively picks moments of retrenchment while ignoring subsequent campaigns.
  • The claim that Europe was a meaningless backwater in 1050 is overstated: the Holy Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire, and Muslim-ruled Spain were significant powers; Macgregor's framing serves his thesis but oversimplifies medieval history.
  • Macgregor attributes a song 'Every Turk is a Soldier' as evidence of universal martial culture, but did not provide the Turkish name or source; the generalization of an entire nation's character based on military impressions with an ally risks essentialism.
  • No evidence is provided for the claim that 'anyone' including Nicaragua could replicate Iran's ISR-Strike complex — this ignores the enormous industrial, technical, budgetary, and organizational requirements of such systems.

Topics

Iran-Turkey post-war Middle East dominanceTurkish military capability and martial cultureIran as rational actor vs. Israel threat perceptionNATO and EU declineISR-Strike technology proliferationUS strategic retrenchment and limitsCivilizational power shift from West to EastTrump's awakening on IsraelHistorical analogy: Rome's limits after TeutoburgSuez Crisis parallel for American empire

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